Film Theory: The Joker Is Not Real (Joker 2019 Spoiler Free)

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  • Published: 08 September 2019
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    This year we are getting a seemingly brand new take on the classic Batman villain, the Joker. This version stars Joaquin Phoenix as a failed comedian named Arthur Fleck - a new name for the old character. People are saying it's a whole new origin story for the Joker and I think that's true... but maybe not in the way most people are thinking. I think this Joker is not actually REAL! What do I mean? You're about to find out!

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    Credits:
    Writer: Matthew Patrick and Zach Stewart
    Editors: Dan "Cybert" Seibert, BanditRants, and Alex "Sedge" Sedgwick
    Assistant Editor: AlyssaBeCrazy
    Sound Editor: Yosi Berman

    Sources:
    nme.com/news/film/joker-director-says-viewers-will-mad-new-film-strays-completely-comic-book-2525698
    nme.com/news/film/marc-maron-tells-us-working-joaquin-phoenixs-upcoming-joker-origin-movie-2466904
    schizophrenia.com/earlysigns.htm#
    sciencealert.com/schizophrenia-is-80-genetic-according-to-this-massive-study-on-twins
    sci-hub.tw/onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/1556-4029.12858
    indiewire.com/2019/04/robert-de-niro-joker-king-of-comedy-1202055636/
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Comments • 9 033

  • Kevin J George
    Kevin J George  4 minutes back

    It could be joker's dad

    • laura.is. short
      laura.is. short  7 minutes back

      What if none of the dc universe that has anything to do with the joker isn't real? Hear me out... What if one day Arthur saw some super heroes on tv and imagined himself as a villain and made up his own superhero, batman. What if batman is a complete figment of his imagination and he just inserts him with other heroes and himself as the villain? Or the other way could be if he just made up superheroes and villains and made all sorts of stories in his head? But the heroes (as you know) always win so why would he make them win? And in all the movies with him in it he's wearing his iconic suit, so this would kinda make sense cause it seems like (as mat mentioned) whenever he wears that suit, he's in his own made up world.

      Or I could just be completely wrong this is just a theory so no hate plz😂

      This theory has a lot of holes in it but if u could just leave ur input on it and build off of it that would be great😂

      • Lauren Hana
        Lauren Hana  14 minutes back

        I really don’t know if this is something you’d ever do but, would you consider doing a theory on the happenings/events within the BTS music video universe? I feel like having your take on it would be very interesting to the whole fandom.

        • Person Lol
          Person Lol  21 minutes back

          I got a joker trailer while watching

          • Plenty O'Tool
            Plenty O'Tool  40 minutes back

            Awesome Analisis, please more like this videos

            • Randy Leach
              Randy Leach  1 hours back

              MatPat, just thought of a new theory. In One Piece, what is Tony Tony Chopper's rumble ball made of?

              • Edinburgh Tumuran
                Edinburgh Tumuran  1 hours back

                Awesome review!

                • Meme Preacher
                  Meme Preacher  1 hours back

                  He is

                  • Jason Dreibeblis
                    Jason Dreibeblis  2 hours back

                    I’m pretty sure I read that either Todd Phillips or jaoquin Phoenix said they crafted jokers mental illness specifically so that it would not be out right diagnosable

                    • Team Fortress 2 MEDIC!
                      Team Fortress 2 MEDIC!  2 hours back

                      In the comics it says jokes is bipolar and schizophrenic

                      • Jeremiah Kane
                        Jeremiah Kane  2 hours back

                        I do believe this thinking to be right, which is why I think certain comic book fans who just want a straight up Joker origin movie will not enjoy this so much. I'm going into it expecting Arthur Fleck to be an unreliable narrator and for this to be a movie loosely based off of the Joker.

                        • mitchcraft
                          mitchcraft  2 hours back

                          Funnily enough i had a similar thought when watching trailers for this.

                          • Jotaro Kujo
                            Jotaro Kujo  2 hours back

                            Video starts:
                            Me: thats bullshit
                            video reaches its conclusion:
                            Me: wait a minute, this actually makes sense holy fuck

                            • MusicalFreak GamerGeek
                              MusicalFreak GamerGeek  2 hours back

                              Got any new theorys on It? The 2nd one is out and I’ve watched it. If you’ve got any theorys I’d love to see that! 😁

                              • harry the inkay
                                harry the inkay  3 hours back

                                Yo mat make a theory about dero and tore in japan question is how are the player survive the game just wacth it to see what I am saying

                                • LG Hopper
                                  LG Hopper  3 hours back

                                  I just wanna know how powerful is godzilla's atomic breath please do it.

                                  • Jack Toner
                                    Jack Toner  3 hours back

                                    this theory can be added to one of your older theories back when batman vs superman was new. You had the theory that the suicide squad joker was Robin and that there was another joker before him. This newer theory could be used to prove both if there is a follow up film with batman or he as In this joker is mentioned throughout the already existing films or is mentioned in future ones. But the again they could be completely different universes.

                                    • Womby The Wizard
                                      Womby The Wizard  3 hours back

                                      Dude I just had the most amazing idea for a theory and didn't know where to post it. How much money did Walt make? Specifically how much money was on the pile in the one episode where Skyler asks him how much is enough.

                                      • Stephen Z
                                        Stephen Z  3 hours back

                                        13:20 As he says in the last trailer:
                                        “Starting now switch to boost mobile to save-“
                                        Me: oh now I get it

                                        • Pyrrhic Knight
                                          Pyrrhic Knight  4 hours back

                                          Joker will become joker so it is not all in his head

                                          • Dabbing Kerbonaut
                                            Dabbing Kerbonaut  4 hours back

                                            You are not a clown.You are the entire circus.

                                            • Mia Tolbert
                                              Mia Tolbert  4 hours back

                                              But if the jokers goals are being accomplished when he is in the traditional joker outfit then what about all the insane moments in the Batman films where joker is doing what he wanted? So would that make everything a fantasy, or maybe there is more to this....?

                                              • Paul Brown
                                                Paul Brown  4 hours back

                                                Do “Dark Nights: Metal” also, the Joker’s not supposed to be able to feel love.

                                                • ProTipz Official
                                                  ProTipz Official  4 hours back

                                                  Where is hiimmarymary part 2

                                                  • F14 tomcat That’s a secret

                                                    Hey may you do a theory on Top Gun maverick trailer?

                                                    • afutla qian
                                                      afutla qian  5 hours back

                                                      you didnt even mention how Rupert is literally labeled "Joker" on the King of comedy movie cover.

                                                      • amr salama
                                                        amr salama  5 hours back

                                                        There is nothing more I hate than 1 dimensional villains and heroes, I like the more complicated realistic characters like Joker.

                                                        • Losasha
                                                          Losasha  5 hours back

                                                          lol literally right at 13:19; the joker trailer came up as an add stealing your thunder matpat XD

                                                          • Dr.Rajasaurus and Uncle Bonecrack

                                                            Jared Leto Joker aint bad... It's just his makeup was horrible!

                                                            • Ms. Ameyla Horrors
                                                              Ms. Ameyla Horrors  6 hours back

                                                              I think what the movie is trying to show us is not schizophrenia... but more something like MPD ( Multi Personality Disorder )

                                                              We have Arthur his life shown as the darker moments what i think this is at the start of the movie, and with all the disarray around him the Joker that has been brewing in him, the angry, rich hating, planning and confident man can be seen, the Joker is either another personality.. or his reality breaking, this would lead to him becoming a Sociopath ( someone that has gone through a traumatic event that then can lead to someone disconnecting from reality and turning violent.

                                                              We see this happening in the trailers as well, he is getting beaten up constantly, he loves someone but he is to weak to get their attention. So what happens? His emotions boil over, then one day he has enough, when he gets beaten up he starts fighting back, his reality shattered to show the real reality, he has to be stronger to fight for what he wants, he, he becomes disconnected and maybe this would coincide with schizophrenia, but i do not think that this is the main part of the Joker story.

                                                              • Horrified Beetle431
                                                                Horrified Beetle431  7 hours back

                                                                That's because the real joker is:




                                                                TOMMY WISEAU

                                                                • Lilah Peterson
                                                                  Lilah Peterson  7 hours back

                                                                  I really like this theory!!! I love how well thought out it all is. I wouldn’t mind if the theory turned out being true, I think it would add more depth to the story if it were. The theory is completely believable and it really works with this movie as well as the character!!!!

                                                                  • gigy635 live
                                                                    gigy635 live  7 hours back

                                                                    Mann why did you have to make me think this shit come onnn

                                                                    • Monoxide
                                                                      Monoxide  7 hours back

                                                                      *Watches video*






                                                                      I have Schizophrenia

                                                                      • YOUZEF Playz
                                                                        YOUZEF Playz  7 hours back

                                                                        👏 👏 👏 he cracked the code

                                                                        • Bread is good
                                                                          Bread is good  7 hours back

                                                                          I got the ad for the joker movie watching this coincidence I think not

                                                                          • riri riri
                                                                            riri riri  7 hours back

                                                                            mat pat do somthing with aventer time #aventer time

                                                                            • Dream State Films
                                                                              Dream State Films  7 hours back

                                                                              Genius! Like Fight Club

                                                                              • GuntherWenkYT
                                                                                GuntherWenkYT  8 hours back

                                                                                I'm not into DC movies because they change the actors like every 2 or 3 movies, there's no consistency. There's been so many Jokers in the last 10 years.

                                                                                • Nano 17
                                                                                  Nano 17  8 hours back

                                                                                  What if he has 2 personalities

                                                                                  • Moon Knight
                                                                                    Moon Knight  8 hours back

                                                                                    I knew this movie was gonna be good when I saw the leak of how he looks

                                                                                    • Sean Barrett
                                                                                      Sean Barrett  8 hours back

                                                                                      He will be the real joker but might not be Batman's joker

                                                                                      • ChrisPowSey
                                                                                        ChrisPowSey  9 hours back

                                                                                        Woooow, wall done mate.. I think everyone at this point knows that this Joker is not the real Joker but the inspiration for the real Joker that we know from the comics and other movies and that in this movie Joker will be the one who kills Thomas and Martha Wayne..

                                                                                        • luis enrique vargas azcona

                                                                                          Ok... now we know it's real. How? because Matpat said it isn't, and he is always wrong when trying to predict movies :v

                                                                                          • Shane's OnAir
                                                                                            Shane's OnAir  9 hours back

                                                                                            This movie looks like shit, all u see him doing is dancing and getting his ass beat. I think we're done with real life bullshit. This is comic book characters and it should stay that way.

                                                                                            • The World Of Fiction
                                                                                              The World Of Fiction  9 hours back

                                                                                              Both characters are wearing the same color suits IDK if that means anything

                                                                                              • Zhiying Di
                                                                                                Zhiying Di  10 hours back

                                                                                                Thanks for the credit! :-D

                                                                                                • FAiden
                                                                                                  FAiden  10 hours back

                                                                                                  Not only that
                                                                                                  Look at the design differences in the two costumes
                                                                                                  The real one looks like a clown costume he found at the costume store
                                                                                                  The imaginary costume looks like an actually good clown costume