Boeing's China Problem

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  • Published: 10 September 2019
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    References:
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    [10] wsj.com/articles/boeing-and-its-737-max-jets-have-a-china-problem-11554904340
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Comments • 2 662

  • Mike B
    Mike B  4 minutes back

    Hong Kong as a Communists China problem.

    • Mark Fischer
      Mark Fischer  29 minutes back

      Boeing will fix the problem that caused the two crashes. There's no doubt of that. The trade war with China would have caused China to cancel its future purchases anyway. The US can retaliate by not certifying the Chinese plane and not granting it landing rights in the US or its territories. It can also pressure its local allies like South Korea, Vietnam, Australia, and Japan to do the same.I don't think it will take too much persuasion. The EU will continue to rely on Airbus as its number one supplier. I doubt China will make many inroads in that market. Russia is also developing its own new passenger plane and so is not likely to allow China to compete effectively there either. The FAA has already given China a large number of defects in design and construction to fix. Perhaps the list will grow longer indefinitely. Boeing will rely to a large degree on the US domestic market and on its military products for its customers. Many outside the US not directly involved with the US China trade war will continue to purchase Boeing civilian aircraft for their fleets.

      • Carlo B
        Carlo B  41 minutes back

        the FAA allowed Boeing to self regulate on some things Wow what a monumental F...up! how typical of an America Inc. Corporation eyeing the potential dollars first before completing the job with aplomb .

        • DavidisDawei
          DavidisDawei  43 minutes back

          07:25
          http://daviddawei.com/chinese-made-passenger-jet-prepares-for-maiden-flight/

          • ottavva
            ottavva  1 hours back

            I hate AIRBUS and it just can't be helped

            • YG LEO
              YG LEO  1 hours back

              warning Taiwan is part of china

              • Eris Young
                Eris Young  1 hours back

                So this video is actually about boeing's 737 Max problem

                • Jim Dighton
                  Jim Dighton  1 hours back

                  The future is chinese, Chinese companies will make even the best American companies obsolete

                  • Keyser Soze
                    Keyser Soze  2 hours back

                    Im sure Boeings technology was stolen long ago...cmon if they steal fighter tech, why not commercial planes?

                    • Timbuck Too
                      Timbuck Too  2 hours back

                      Haha. Boeing Sucks. There politically correct hiring practice has bit them in the ass. Serves them right for not hiring the most qualified(mostly white) engineers.
                      The MAX is Dead. So is Boeing

                      • josh otis
                        josh otis  2 hours back

                        They can buy all our Max 8 for what we payed for them

                        • josh otis
                          josh otis  2 hours back

                          china is going too take out all seats but 1st class and make everyone stand so they can fly 2 times as many people per a plane.

                          • ASGAR Q
                            ASGAR Q  3 hours back

                            Boycott China Products

                            • Amidat
                              Amidat  3 hours back

                              So you are saying Comac should have rushed through the ARJ21??? It's a commercial plane - not a bicycle! If they rushed it would end up crashing like the Boeing 737. Comac's record is safe... That's what they are concerned about.

                              • elysian fields
                                elysian fields  3 hours back

                                "Civil aviation" in China? BS! They are all military transports supporting the conscienceless CCP. Boeing is a mindless, commercial whore!

                                • Phil Zappa
                                  Phil Zappa  3 hours back

                                  Build your own.plane Han...see how hard it is....Remember...Usa did not steal your plans or designs...because...U GOT NONE

                                  • Grishanya
                                    Grishanya  3 hours back

                                    You forgot to mention that C919 is build together with Russian company Irkut which is simultaneously developing MS-21 aircraft. Yes, GE engines are currently installed on C919 but its gonna be changed for PD-14 as soon as Russian institutions will finish the development of that. So it's even more dangerous since soon we will have MS-21 and C919 taking on Boeing 737 and Airbus A320neo together :)
                                    Also there's a potential competition if Russia finally reallizes what to do with Il-96-400M because it needs new engines which Russia doesnt have but its a very good plane that can carry more than 450 passengers

                                    • A. Al Khayyat
                                      A. Al Khayyat  4 hours back

                                      Polymatter?

                                      • Ian Montgomery
                                        Ian Montgomery  5 hours back

                                        What about the C929 which is due in a couple of years.

                                        • A Mohamed Nazel
                                          A Mohamed Nazel  5 hours back

                                          nobody trust 737max anymore or Boeing for that matter..they don't keep their word and cut corners on safety and make huge profits by compromising safety

                                          • James McKay
                                            James McKay  6 hours back

                                            I like tour xhannel. A constructive critisism is to SLOW Sown your speech. It almost hurts,

                                            • Billy
                                              Billy  6 hours back

                                              "China is building their own air plane"... yeah no shit, the cheating scum steal everyone's IP to build their "own".

                                              • Supreme Overlord
                                                Supreme Overlord  7 hours back

                                                FAA is a joke!

                                                • ThatDutchguy
                                                  ThatDutchguy  8 hours back

                                                  Boeing has a safety and quality problem,...let's start with that.

                                                  Not to mention that, the US government and the FAA have both grandfathered in either their direct backing and in the case of the FAA their carte blanc approval to Boeing.

                                                  And that's wrong on soooooo many levels.

                                                  • Glen 897
                                                    Glen 897  8 hours back

                                                    Another aspect of Chinese air travel not mentioned is air space overcrowding around the major cities. I do wonder if one day Comac will buy the rights and tooling for the Airbus A380. It has been a commercial flop for Airbus, but is actually a good plane in search of a purpose. Reducing air space congestion around the biggest Chinese cities may be that purpose.

                                                    • cxplayxc
                                                      cxplayxc  8 hours back

                                                      who wants to fly a China plane ? i would never

                                                      • Alan Tan
                                                        Alan Tan  9 hours back

                                                        So, 737 Max is made for(emphasized) china, designed from the USA.

                                                        • Mireille Davidson
                                                          Mireille Davidson  9 hours back

                                                          This is somewhat misleading. The world does not tank its cues from the fAT, in fact the FAT were the last authority worldwide to ground the plane. The Ethopian, Canandia and UK authorities were one of the first to respond, with China and Europe and the rest of the world, excluding USA, swiftly following.
                                                          The history of how this plane came to market I horrific and I never expected it from Boeing, having always held them in such high regard. But ever since their merger with McDoanld Douglas, its been all about the profit. This situation is just BS however, if you have the finance there is definitely a gap, or rather a gaping hole, for a new manufacturer.
                                                          But please remember, the rest of the world's aviation don't wait on the drippings of the FAA , they are quite capable of making their own decisions, as is evident by the worldwide grounding of a beautiful but flawed plane.

                                                        • tony he
                                                          tony he  10 hours back

                                                          Just wanna remind ya that Taiwan is a province of China,which means it is a part of China,so ur map was wrong.

                                                          • Mike G
                                                            Mike G  10 hours back

                                                            Yes, COMAC already stole US technology.
                                                            I worked at GE Aviation.
                                                            COMAC contracted with GE to design, test and manufacture avionics for them.
                                                            COMAC pulled out of the contract when GE developed most of the design and tech.
                                                            COMAC took the IP and ran, made their own planes.
                                                            So GE payed millions to develop the tech, only to have China renege on the contract.
                                                            China- 1, GE- 0.

                                                            • Reza Adel
                                                              Reza Adel  10 hours back

                                                              This is just the beginning.

                                                              • Mark Stuckey
                                                                Mark Stuckey  10 hours back

                                                                In China most big companies are government owned, in the USA most government is big company owned.

                                                                • R Greenup
                                                                  R Greenup  11 hours back

                                                                  Boeing and the FAA have been incredibly stupid concerning the Max, the only reason I can think of why this happened is because both considered themselves above ordinary considerations and a law unto themselves. They have opened the door for China and helped Airbus at the same time, unbelievable.

                                                                  • Hector Lalalala
                                                                    Hector Lalalala  11 hours back

                                                                    I wish china all the best. But i gotta say that i hate Chinese people. That was a bipolar comment 😭😂🙄

                                                                    • Kamal Yadav
                                                                      Kamal Yadav  12 hours back

                                                                      Please make a video on Air Asia and Malaysian airlines safety standards.
                                                                      I think they are not allowed to fly in Europe airspace

                                                                      • Sydney dorono
                                                                        Sydney dorono  12 hours back

                                                                        The map is wrong, ewww

                                                                        • Andrew C
                                                                          Andrew C  12 hours back

                                                                          It's going to start off unreliable and cheap. Then after a few years it will be more reliable, possibly even more reliable than the competition, and cheaper still. You see the Chinese are moving on into robotic manufacturing. That will make it cheap, but like everything else they manufacture, it has taken a few years to get the products right, as it does for anyone developing a product, but the difference is the Chinese improve faster. Everything happens faster in China. They can build a whole city faster than it takes to build a nuclear reactor back in Blighty. lol

                                                                          • Shawn Li
                                                                            Shawn Li  12 hours back

                                                                            Boeing 737, comfort to die for

                                                                            • T Brown Records
                                                                              T Brown Records  12 hours back

                                                                              Oh wow

                                                                              • B. Baker
                                                                                B. Baker  14 hours back

                                                                                Of course China is making their own aircraft where else will they put there asbestos and recycling

                                                                                • Greg Adam
                                                                                  Greg Adam  14 hours back

                                                                                  The fixes for the max are being held back like what happened to NASSA . Yes they need to be fixed properly but give China the opportunity they will lose the initiative and the market.

                                                                                  • Steven Lewis
                                                                                    Steven Lewis  15 hours back

                                                                                    How about a video on the United States Boeing problems? the USN Super Hornet problem, the 777X engine problems or the USAF F-15X V's F-35 problem.

                                                                                    • DeepCupsChan119
                                                                                      DeepCupsChan119  15 hours back

                                                                                      Nah I never fly to China just Europe,Canada,USA,japan,Australia,Singapore and Vietnam but never go to China cause that country is stupid

                                                                                      • John MCCULLOCH
                                                                                        John MCCULLOCH  16 hours back

                                                                                        China is a problem PERIOD>

                                                                                        • X Y Z
                                                                                          X Y Z  16 hours back

                                                                                          Boeing Boeing GONE!

                                                                                          • Charles Shi
                                                                                            Charles Shi  16 hours back

                                                                                            Appeal President Xi Jinping To Order Criminal Investigation https://faaoversightextraordinaryairsafetythreat.wordpress.com/2019/07/13/appeal-to-president-xi-jinping-in-ordering-criminal-investigation
                                                                                            紧急请求习主席批示查办

                                                                                            • Tom Meyers
                                                                                              Tom Meyers  16 hours back

                                                                                              China's Boeing problem. Ka-Boom!

                                                                                              • Richard Tompkins
                                                                                                Richard Tompkins  17 hours back

                                                                                                This what happens when you get China involved..... now they got they are making there own.